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hello everyone and welcome to the show

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on Martin wilisher host and we have a

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very interesting show tonight we have

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Julie Olson coming up she had a 1982

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encounter we're going to be talking

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about and she actually has some uh

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debris we're going to be talking about

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that she's because she has it she's

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going to be able to show that and I have

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pictures of that as well just I want to

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get something out of the way a sad thing

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we lost a great uh contributor to the

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UFO world and that's Robbie Graham uh he

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passed away a couple of days ago

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unfortunately

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so uh if you have not heard that I

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wanted to let people know listeners know

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he was a past guest on this show and

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will be missed in this world of UFOs so

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um this week our blog

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by Charles Lear is uh UFO Abduction

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research under the scrutiny of at

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Harvard and this is about John Mack of

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course and uh it's another great blog

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again these are made into audio blogs

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that go out on our podcast feed or they

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actually go out as a video on YouTube as

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well so I want to thank you all for

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joining us tonight and without further

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Ado on bringing in our guests by the way

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I do want to thank everyone that helps

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out with the show I do appreciate that

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and here we go welcome to the show Julie

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hello everybody

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and I gotta say this uh you can't help

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but see what a beautiful uh uh property

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you have uh behind you you can right

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away I I feel like I'm in snow country

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and um and then I saw you do have like

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two feet of snow coming your way right

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or is it snowing right now

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just very lightly coming down so we're

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not going to get as much as the cities

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like they're supposed to get like 26 and

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I think we only got six so far so yeah

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yeah that that's good well I'm not in

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Snow Country right now and I'm not

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really missing it so but I uh you know I

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uh I may someday but

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um but right now I don't think I'm Gonna

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Miss Snow for a while

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well I I like the winter but I'm ready

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for spring and summer now bonfires I'm

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yeah I'm ready right right so I I had uh

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one of my listeners uh mentioned you uh

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and I I tracked it down and listened to

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an interview

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um with you and thought you had a very

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interesting story not only that but it

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continues on

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um you know so I'd like for you if you

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would let's start out by you telling of

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the story as it happened back in 1982 if

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sure uh 1982 I was well I just turned 18

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November 26th I still lived at home

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and I lived in a a real rural area of

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Minnesota

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um a lot of people probably watching are

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familiar with Minnesota but I lived in a

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pretty rural area Stillwater Mahtomedi

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will learning was is just a little town

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um like the population when I was 18 was

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400 you know from what I we put it back

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to yeah I was very small

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uh and I lived in a house that was built

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in 1900 a real old home and we had ponds

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that surrounded our house and then on

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the right side of our house we had a uh

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the backwaters of a lake called

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Washington Lake and I I will go right

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into the in the what my mother and I and

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my stepfather witnessed and it was

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February 10th of 1982 and again I was 18

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years old and uh my parents were

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actually going through a divorce at this

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time in Roland

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um my well let's we'll just call him

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rawland I my stepfather anyway he had uh

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he had about another week to be in the

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house before he had actually leave when

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the divorce would be final

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so anyway my mother and I

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um and I'm from a family of I have three

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brothers and two sisters and I'm the

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middle child and

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the February 10th of 1982

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um my I my we had a four bedroom house

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and my bedroom was in the hallway so I I

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didn't have a bedroom I I slept out in

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the hallway I'm a little bed I didn't

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have a dress or anything but my sisters

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were gone and I got to sleep in their

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room that night and my parents were

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going through a divorce and my mother

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and I slept in a room that neither one

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of us have ever slept in and that to me

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too was like a sign from when I when I'm

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about to tell you so anyway it was about

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uh midnight and

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in the bedroom so the bed was up against

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the wall and there was two windows and I

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wasn't facing the windows and neither

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was my mother and it was around midnight

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and you know like if somebody came into

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a room and turned on a light you would

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know that right you're like oh you know

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somebody just light switch that's what I

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um because we I think we went up to bed

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about like 10 10 30 somewhere around

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there so but anyway I thought someone

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turned on a light switched and I opened

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my eyes and the whole room was neon lime

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green not like a just a beam coming in

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the whole room was lit up green and it

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was just like oh my gosh what is this I

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mean I knew it wasn't a car going by or

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and again I'm in a very rural area so I

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turned and I kneeled down the bed and I

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looked out the window and our house was

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on a little Hill I mean not not a big

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hill but just like a little Hill and on

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the bottom of the hill we had a street

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light in our yard

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and so when I'm looking out the window

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you know kneeling on the bed I can see a

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long cigar shaped object about 40 feet

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long hovering so like

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um down below where the heel is in the

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street light if you would add one more

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street light on there that's about how

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low this was so and I I didn't have to

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say anything to my mother because I just

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kind of like gave her a little nudge you

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know and my mother got up and she uh

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walked to the edge of the bed and she

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looked out the window and I now I'm

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kneeling on the bed looking out the

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window at this 40 foot long long lime

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green cigar light just hovering and I

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mean it wasn't just like this I mean it

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had like a little bit of a bounce to it

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and my mother's standing there and she

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looks out the window and her first words

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and this is even in the newspaper her

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first words were oh my god Julie it's

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the second coming of the Lord because it

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was so Majestic it was so beautiful was

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it scary there were so many emotions in

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in just looking at it you didn't you

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were froze you you

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were you scared no I mean there was just

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so many things but that's what she

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thought and we just stared at it so as

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as we're staring at this then all of a

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sudden it lowers now it's lower lowered

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um below the street lane and it's about

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like six feet off the ground and again

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we're upstairs we're looking at a second

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floor bedroom window facing the street

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light facing this whole object so we we

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can see that this we're watching it drop

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down then we watched it shoot up and as

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it shut out well first I'm going to tell

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you about this light the lime green

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light like I looked inside there and

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this wasn't a blinding light like you

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could look at the site you didn't have

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to go like oh my gosh yes it was bright

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but you could look at it and it didn't

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hurt your eyes and within the Light

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Within the cigar shaped light I looked

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inside there to see if I could see

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anything

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um like if there was any movement in

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there if there was anything dark in

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there I couldn't it was just one solid

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and so as this lowered and then lifted

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it shut you're not going to believe this

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but this is exactly what happened it

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shot down Fireballs like all these

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Fireballs came out uh from like the

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Craft

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um they didn't come straight down they

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came out at like

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sat at the on out of the sides because

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the way they came down

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and so they and they had a tail on them

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but they they shot down and you got to

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remember this is February 10th this is

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willerni Minnesota and even in my um

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uh we have a lot of snow this is me and

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my mother but we had about two feet of

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snow and this is one of the pieces here

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that yeah that

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um that shot down that wasn't Disturbed

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but anyway so this is the next morning

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but let's get back to the night when

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when this lifted and shot down those

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Fireballs they went all over into like

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the snow Banks across the road and

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everything and now they're glowing

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there's these glowing Embers all over

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and after that lifted it shot off at

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like an 80 degree angle within one two

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three seconds it was gone so now we're I

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wish I was outside but now we're just

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still looking out the window this is

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gone and we can see all these Embers

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burning in the snow Banks across the

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street in our yard and they stayed

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glowing for at least 15-20 seconds and

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Rollin I was telling you my parents are

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going through a divorce so he was

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downstairs and we could we could hear

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him yelling June get down here there's a

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UFO June he's just down there screaming

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because he was watching it below us we

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were in the upstairs and below us he was

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watching it from the patio window so

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he's standing below us looking out the

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patio window we're seeing the same

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things but we're up here and he's down

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here

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so anyway so we watched this burnout and

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then uh we ran downstairs and I got on a

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jacket and I wanted to know what that

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was that what that was out there so I

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went out and Roland did tell me he said

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Julie I think you should get back in

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here because we don't know if they're

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radioactive so but I just wanted to get

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out there and take a peek and I did get

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close to one but I mean it was already

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burnt out you know but you could see and

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again this is probably you know like 12

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30 now you know 12 20 whatever so we had

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to wait for morning you know to come for

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things to get brighter so we could go

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out there so yeah that night none of us

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went to bed my mom called her sisters we

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called the police we called the

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neighbors I mean it was really something

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to see so what happened when you what

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happened when you called the police

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I actually just um when I was writing my

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book too I did call the Washington

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County Police Department and see if they

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had any archive or anything like that

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um our road got roped off and I don't I

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I this is you know this was 1982 and you

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know it's for 39 40 years ago but I

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can't remember who roped off I wrote the

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next morning like you couldn't they

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blocked off the road so you couldn't

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drive that you know drive through it but

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you could go around our house we had a

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side road and you could use that road

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so I don't know if it was Robert

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englberg from kufos that roped off the

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road I don't know if it was the police

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department I just can't recall that and

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I wish I I wish I could tell you who

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roped it off but it did get you know

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blocked off did they did they come out

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that night though to talk to anyone or

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or did they actually physically come to

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the house the police I'm talking about

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yeah they didn't come to the house till

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uh my mom well this happened around

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midnight and I think they came it was

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like about five six in the morning that

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they came to the house but again I try

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to get a report on that and it they're

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just there just wasn't one so

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um but then

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um uh the next day

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um Robert englberg from kufos came to

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our house and he we actually gave him a

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piece and also the University of

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Minnesota came to her house

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and they took two pieces

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and they were going to analyze it in

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fact that's in the paper

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um did you have that article that I gave

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you about that

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on on here also it says downstairs Ron

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Julie's brother had also seen the fire

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you know the Fireballs it wasn't my my

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father's name was uh Roland so that was

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supposed to be downstairs Ron it should

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have said Roland Julie's father so but

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that that's just an error there that's

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not the idea yeah um but yeah the

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University of Minnesota took some pieces

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and then they couldn't analyze it so

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they the University of Minnesota sent

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the pieces off to kufos in Chicago

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Illinois

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yes that that piece there that you're

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showing that's the one that Robert

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engberg from kufos and wolfon he worked

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for both of them he took that one from

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my mother and I and he was going to have

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it analyzed and unfortunately we never

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heard from him again we never heard from

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like the University of Minnesota sent

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the two pictures or the two um pieces

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that they couldn't identify they sent

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those to kufos we never heard back from

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kufos it was like our Pieces Just

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we're gone

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um my mother

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also wrote a letter to uh kufos Center

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for UFO studies was what kufo's yeah

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three or four studies but my mother

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wrote a letter uh to them so this

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happened in February 10 1982 and my

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mother wrote a letter to them

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um right here

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go ahead yeah this is the original

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letter she wrote to them in

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um March of 1982 pleading with them and

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I have this in my book you know to you

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know to whom it may concern you know

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where the pieces that we that were sent

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to you from the University of Minnesota

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you know where is Robert englberg

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um you know and as God is my witness

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this is what me and my daughter seen and

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I mean I could read her letter no that's

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okay

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so anyway

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um they never responded even in March of

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1982 it was just like okay so all this

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happened it was so exciting it was so

356
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Majestic it was so mind-blowing and here

357
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we're entrusting our pieces to people

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you know such as mufan kufos whatever

359
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and we just don't hear from anybody and

360
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then the story just kind of slowly

361
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fizzled out

362
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now before we go on from this point here

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I wanted to ask you a couple things

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um what what was the reaction like

365
00:16:20,269 --> 00:16:16,800
locally was this in the papers besides

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that did it go more broadly or was it

367
00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:22,440
just did it stay like a regional story

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do you know

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uh earlier that evening there was

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sightings on Bald Eagle Lake that they

371
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saw this lime green cigar-shaped light

372
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too and it's it's uh you know now that

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my book is out my book just came out

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September of 2022. now the neighbors

375
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like people that I um I just went down

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to my town uh will Ernie and I stopped

377
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in at the um to talk to a few of the

378
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locals and there there's so many people

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that are coming up to me and saying

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Julie I remembered when this happened

381
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and I seen this and you know and your

382
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story is true and and this and that and

383
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then um

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uh a lady yesterday uh she's a realtor

385
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my my oldest daughter works for Edina

386
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Realty and she's a realtor and her

387
00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:08,579
friend

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00:17:11,929 --> 00:17:10,799
um I'll just say her name Pam but I'm

389
00:17:16,429 --> 00:17:11,939
not going to say a last name but she

390
00:17:18,829 --> 00:17:16,439
just reached out to me and I'm 59 and

391
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Pam is 61 and she just I actually talked

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to her yesterday and this morning and

393
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she said that she said she read my book

394
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it's it's mind-blowing and that her and

395
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her husband witnessed she said there's

396
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something about the willernee area

397
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because there was a lot of UFO uh

398
00:17:39,710 --> 00:17:37,080
sightings and stories and uh her and her

399
00:17:42,169 --> 00:17:39,720
husband actually seen one very close

400
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that was v-shaped and it was like a 1978

401
00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:44,400
or 79 so she was telling me about that

402
00:17:48,890 --> 00:17:47,160
too so I'm just have I'm talking to

403
00:17:51,770 --> 00:17:48,900
people now that have like you know are

404
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:51,780
sharing things with me so and I think if

405
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this story would have what happened with

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me and my mother you know at our house

407
00:17:59,930 --> 00:17:57,900
and my little town of willernie 1982 I

408
00:18:01,490 --> 00:17:59,940
think if this happened today the news

409
00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:01,500
would be all over it I mean it would be

410
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:03,600
get so much more attention but back then

411
00:18:10,789 --> 00:18:06,960
yeah I got teased you know like oh yeah

412
00:18:12,770 --> 00:18:10,799
Julie Olson saw a UFO or you know

413
00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:12,780
um there was Whispers there was this and

414
00:18:16,130 --> 00:18:14,160
that but it didn't matter to me because

415
00:18:19,250 --> 00:18:16,140
I know what I've seen and I actually

416
00:18:22,250 --> 00:18:19,260
have pieces of it so and then um in my

417
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:22,260
book too uh Angie and I'll leave her

418
00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:23,760
name blasting him out of it but she's in

419
00:18:28,370 --> 00:18:25,919
my book she wrote she

420
00:18:30,590 --> 00:18:28,380
um she was coming home from work after

421
00:18:33,890 --> 00:18:30,600
midnight also and she lives right behind

422
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:33,900
me back then and she had to pull her car

423
00:18:39,529 --> 00:18:36,960
over and they were right by her car and

424
00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:39,539
she says there was two of them so but

425
00:18:43,070 --> 00:18:42,000
she pulled her car over and she said

426
00:18:45,770 --> 00:18:43,080
that

427
00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:45,780
um she watched as the it almost looked

428
00:18:51,529 --> 00:18:47,580
like the woods were gonna be on fire

429
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:51,539
because when this craft rose and it

430
00:18:55,730 --> 00:18:53,280
shout out those Fireballs you could see

431
00:18:57,049 --> 00:18:55,740
the Horizon from the trees and it looked

432
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:57,059
like there was going to be a massive

433
00:19:00,710 --> 00:18:59,039
fire and I always ask myself too

434
00:19:02,090 --> 00:19:00,720
sometimes what if this would have

435
00:19:05,330 --> 00:19:02,100
happened in the summer because I'm

436
00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:05,340
around you know all those ponds and you

437
00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:08,400
know if those Fireballs shot down in the

438
00:19:12,289 --> 00:19:09,900
summer there would have been a fire but

439
00:19:16,730 --> 00:19:12,299
this was was winter you know and it

440
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:16,740
burned those holes those Rings like four

441
00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:18,480
or five inches deep into the snow that's

442
00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:21,360
how hot those were wow so you I mean

443
00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:23,940
this was a huge display this was the

444
00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:25,140
silhouette of this you wouldn't even

445
00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:26,760
believe you would you would swear yeah

446
00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:30,000
there's that's when we left undisturbed

447
00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:31,500
because

448
00:19:35,390 --> 00:19:33,360
um and that was my idea I told my mother

449
00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:35,400
I said because she was gonna scoop it up

450
00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:37,260
and how we got these things out of the

451
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:40,020
snow we we had two wood stoves that he

452
00:19:44,510 --> 00:19:42,240
that's how we heated our house you know

453
00:19:47,450 --> 00:19:44,520
we were old school and we just burned

454
00:19:50,270 --> 00:19:47,460
wood to heat the house and so we took

455
00:19:52,010 --> 00:19:50,280
two of the shovels from the wood stove

456
00:19:53,870 --> 00:19:52,020
fireplaces and we went out and scooped

457
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,880
those up and we put them on a plate and

458
00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:54,960
I don't know if you have that picture

459
00:19:59,870 --> 00:19:56,039
too

460
00:20:02,330 --> 00:19:59,880
so yeah yeah yeah let me look through

461
00:20:04,669 --> 00:20:02,340
and we have these pictures here but you

462
00:20:06,529 --> 00:20:04,679
actually have the objects or you have

463
00:20:08,450 --> 00:20:06,539
one of the objects that you were able to

464
00:20:11,450 --> 00:20:08,460
retrieve and I want to of course we're

465
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:11,460
gonna be talking about that as well uh

466
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:14,640
you have what I'm showing here right yes

467
00:20:20,450 --> 00:20:18,000
yeah so uh why don't you if you don't

468
00:20:21,650 --> 00:20:20,460
mind why don't you uh actually hold it

469
00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:21,660
up to the camera

470
00:20:25,730 --> 00:20:23,520
I will do that but I want to tell you

471
00:20:29,330 --> 00:20:25,740
something about this piece so this was

472
00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:29,340
our full and past intact piece right and

473
00:20:34,430 --> 00:20:31,140
this is the one that we entrusted Robert

474
00:20:37,549 --> 00:20:34,440
with and he works with kufos and mufon

475
00:20:39,950 --> 00:20:37,559
this is all documented and um

476
00:20:42,169 --> 00:20:39,960
so when Robert

477
00:20:45,230 --> 00:20:42,179
took this and said he was going to have

478
00:20:48,529 --> 00:20:45,240
it analyzed and I remember when I was 18

479
00:20:51,289 --> 00:20:48,539
this is the box he put it in and it even

480
00:20:54,830 --> 00:20:51,299
says his name on it Robert Amberg

481
00:20:59,950 --> 00:20:54,840
right Yep this is the Box

482
00:21:03,110 --> 00:20:59,960
so and so Robert takes us in

483
00:21:05,810 --> 00:21:03,120
1982. we don't see him remember I told

484
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:05,820
you my mother wrote the letter to kufo

485
00:21:08,570 --> 00:21:07,919
Falls

486
00:21:12,490 --> 00:21:08,580
um

487
00:21:15,070 --> 00:21:12,500
and when mufon how this whole story got

488
00:21:18,909 --> 00:21:15,080
rekindled is

489
00:21:21,890 --> 00:21:18,919
mufan wrote me a letter December of

490
00:21:24,169 --> 00:21:21,900
2019. I I get it in my mail and they

491
00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:24,179
said are you the girl from 1982 that

492
00:21:29,210 --> 00:21:26,880
witnessed this sighting and I said I am

493
00:21:32,210 --> 00:21:29,220
that girl and I reached out to move on

494
00:21:35,690 --> 00:21:32,220
and then I was telling them that my um

495
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:35,700
we never did get any of our pieces back

496
00:21:41,390 --> 00:21:38,640
um and they were never tested with it's

497
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:41,400
like the whole story just just fizzled

498
00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,000
out so they said well let me check into

499
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:46,320
kufos and write them a letter and see if

500
00:21:49,490 --> 00:21:48,000
they have your pieces or any record of

501
00:21:53,870 --> 00:21:49,500
any of this

502
00:21:55,850 --> 00:21:53,880
so a letter was written to kufos and

503
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:55,860
then we got the letter back

504
00:22:01,490 --> 00:21:59,760
and or they got a response and they they

505
00:22:03,049 --> 00:22:01,500
said we do not have any record of

506
00:22:05,870 --> 00:22:03,059
getting any pieces from the University

507
00:22:08,169 --> 00:22:05,880
of Minnesota or anything however we do

508
00:22:10,669 --> 00:22:08,179
have your mother's letter on file from

509
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,679
1982. why would they have my mother's

510
00:22:16,669 --> 00:22:12,480
letter on file but not have any of our

511
00:22:19,010 --> 00:22:16,679
pieces right right so on that letter and

512
00:22:21,890 --> 00:22:19,020
they got a copy of that letter and they

513
00:22:24,529 --> 00:22:21,900
mufan sent that to me and that's how I

514
00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:24,539
found out I'm like that was it because I

515
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:25,860
couldn't remember this guy's name Robert

516
00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:28,320
ingberg I met him one time but his

517
00:22:33,470 --> 00:22:31,980
letter was um on or his name was on my

518
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:33,480
mother's letter

519
00:22:38,810 --> 00:22:36,000
because on the bottom of it and that's

520
00:22:41,090 --> 00:22:38,820
how I found his name and I it took me

521
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,100
like three months to find him and I

522
00:22:45,169 --> 00:22:43,440
finally found I tracked Robert down and

523
00:22:47,149 --> 00:22:45,179
I said I need my piece back I said you

524
00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:47,159
know what happened and I told him I was

525
00:22:50,210 --> 00:22:48,840
dealing with Jacques valet and Paula

526
00:22:52,430 --> 00:22:50,220
Harris and he's like how do you know

527
00:22:56,210 --> 00:22:52,440
them well just a long story anyway

528
00:23:00,890 --> 00:22:56,220
Robert found my piece and we met June of

529
00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:00,900
2021 in Mora at a diner and he gave me

530
00:23:06,890 --> 00:23:04,440
back my piece he apologized to me and he

531
00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:06,900
even gave me a letter of transmittal

532
00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:09,780
and um I have that right here

533
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:11,700
this is all in my book

534
00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:15,360
saying that he re uh returned the piece

535
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:19,020
back to me since from since 1982. so

536
00:23:23,210 --> 00:23:20,880
here's this proof their letter of

537
00:23:25,549 --> 00:23:23,220
transmittal transfer that he gave it

538
00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:25,559
back to me so at the diner when he

539
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:28,440
pulled this box out and I was sitting

540
00:23:33,950 --> 00:23:31,679
there and he took the uh cap out you

541
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,960
know the box top off and you set it

542
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:35,520
right in front of me I started crying

543
00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:37,919
because I have not seen this piece for

544
00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:40,260
39 years and to me this was like a human

545
00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:43,260
connection I say what you want I

546
00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:45,720
literally sobbed over this piece it was

547
00:23:50,330 --> 00:23:47,700
gone for me for that long it's something

548
00:23:53,930 --> 00:23:50,340
my mother and I witnessed together it

549
00:23:55,070 --> 00:23:53,940
was uh uh it was so miraculous and I got

550
00:23:58,850 --> 00:23:55,080
this back

551
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:58,860
and to me that this is just

552
00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:01,200
you can you can't replace this ever you

553
00:24:05,390 --> 00:24:03,780
know what I mean so yeah that's how I

554
00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:05,400
got that piece back and I will show you

555
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:07,020
I'm going to put a glove on here I'll

556
00:24:10,010 --> 00:24:08,640
show you what it looks like

557
00:24:10,909 --> 00:24:10,020
and

558
00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:10,919
um

559
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,919
Martin I told you that it's growing it's

560
00:24:18,049 --> 00:24:15,840
growing it's been in this box for 40

561
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,059
years and it's growing some type of

562
00:24:23,149 --> 00:24:20,880
silver metallic

563
00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:23,159
I shouldn't even be touching it yeah but

564
00:24:28,669 --> 00:24:25,860
do do you see I do see it yeah yeah yeah

565
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,679
and it doesn't have a small or anything

566
00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:31,440
it wasn't like stored in somewhere damp

567
00:24:36,169 --> 00:24:32,700
or anything like that that you're aware

568
00:24:37,010 --> 00:24:36,179
of no and he yeah he had it in a safe

569
00:24:39,289 --> 00:24:37,020
um

570
00:24:43,370 --> 00:24:39,299
so let me ask you let me ask as you're

571
00:24:46,130 --> 00:24:43,380
showing this piece yeah um did he say

572
00:24:49,549 --> 00:24:46,140
anything about any analysis of the

573
00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:49,559
whatever the material is basically he

574
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:51,659
apologized to me he said he never had it

575
00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:54,720
tested and basically he said basically I

576
00:24:59,450 --> 00:24:56,940
mean he didn't come out and say it but

577
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,460
he kind of like being selfish he was

578
00:25:04,909 --> 00:25:01,919
just going to keep it for himself and I

579
00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:04,919
I told him hey I get it you know

580
00:25:09,529 --> 00:25:07,559
whatever but at least now I've got this

581
00:25:11,649 --> 00:25:09,539
back and he apologized and we became

582
00:25:14,029 --> 00:25:11,659
friends we talked for

583
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:14,039
my gosh I talked to him at least a few

584
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:17,159
times a week you know and he was really

585
00:25:21,409 --> 00:25:18,960
happy that I had it back and then

586
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,419
unfortunately to tell you this I got

587
00:25:25,070 --> 00:25:23,039
this back in June and then three months

588
00:25:27,529 --> 00:25:25,080
later Robert passed away for he died of

589
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:27,539
a sudden heart attack so that was really

590
00:25:33,649 --> 00:25:30,559
sad yeah yeah

591
00:25:36,529 --> 00:25:33,659
amazing that your timing was prior to

592
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:36,539
that there it is right there now your

593
00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:38,880
gloves yeah my gloves are camouflaging

594
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:40,260
it I got to take I couldn't find a

595
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:41,520
rubber glove and I got to get some more

596
00:25:46,730 --> 00:25:43,620
but I'll just have to wash my hands I

597
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:46,740
gotta be very delicate with this yeah so

598
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:48,600
there it is right there turn it turn it

599
00:25:53,149 --> 00:25:49,919
right around keep turning it right

600
00:25:55,010 --> 00:25:53,159
around uh and it it shows you can

601
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:55,020
obviously see that it was you know

602
00:25:59,390 --> 00:25:57,120
burned looks like it was burned from the

603
00:26:02,570 --> 00:25:59,400
inside and uh those of you who are

604
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,580
listening to this and audio only I will

605
00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:04,799
have pictures of this but the video

606
00:26:08,090 --> 00:26:05,880
itself

607
00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:08,100
um on YouTube and Facebook

608
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,740
Etc does show her handling this piece

609
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,200
but you will see pictures in the show

610
00:26:18,409 --> 00:26:15,360
notes if you just follow that so there

611
00:26:20,990 --> 00:26:18,419
it is and uh what

612
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:21,000
um what are the plans with this material

613
00:26:27,769 --> 00:26:22,559
at this point

614
00:26:30,490 --> 00:26:27,779
well it's not going to be anything uh

615
00:26:34,330 --> 00:26:30,500
cheap to get tested you know what I mean

616
00:26:36,769 --> 00:26:34,340
yeah yeah I've heard it could be

617
00:26:38,029 --> 00:26:36,779
thousands and thousands and thousands of

618
00:26:40,850 --> 00:26:38,039
dollars because it just has to go

619
00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:40,860
through the test and I may hold the Holy

620
00:26:45,289 --> 00:26:43,620
Grail you know and I'm the type of

621
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:45,299
person yeah I have a connection with

622
00:26:49,610 --> 00:26:47,460
this because it was gone off uh all

623
00:26:53,930 --> 00:26:49,620
those years for me and to me it has

624
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,940
sentimental uh value to it but I would

625
00:26:58,130 --> 00:26:56,159
also I would like the world to know what

626
00:27:00,610 --> 00:26:58,140
this is and I would be willing to put it

627
00:27:03,169 --> 00:27:00,620
into a um a university

628
00:27:04,970 --> 00:27:03,179
or I mean I would like the world to know

629
00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:04,980
what this is and I would be willing to

630
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,980
give that up to just if so people could

631
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,320
learn or know what this is you know

632
00:27:14,690 --> 00:27:12,240
maybe it's from the government we don't

633
00:27:16,130 --> 00:27:14,700
know I don't know what this is yeah you

634
00:27:18,590 --> 00:27:16,140
know well you know I'd like to suggest

635
00:27:21,409 --> 00:27:18,600
and we can do this offline but I mean I

636
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:21,419
know uh for instance Gary Nolan is not a

637
00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:24,240
metal or metallurgist he's not but he's

638
00:27:28,370 --> 00:27:26,760
he's a scientist with with connections

639
00:27:31,370 --> 00:27:28,380
and someone that you can absolutely

640
00:27:32,930 --> 00:27:31,380
trust and I think that that would be I

641
00:27:35,450 --> 00:27:32,940
mean I can again I can talk through this

642
00:27:38,090 --> 00:27:35,460
offline but I connect you two together

643
00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:38,100
and I think that might be a way to get

644
00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:41,580
this at least the ball rolling on this

645
00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:43,380
um because I understand you're you're

646
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,120
correct in your assumption that it's

647
00:27:50,029 --> 00:27:48,000
very expensive and I know that that

648
00:27:52,909 --> 00:27:50,039
stops a lot of people from doing a lot

649
00:27:55,010 --> 00:27:52,919
of things similar but this uh like you

650
00:27:57,169 --> 00:27:55,020
said if this is the Holy Grail this

651
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,179
actually you saw this actually come out

652
00:28:02,570 --> 00:28:00,240
of a very strange unknown object then I

653
00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:02,580
really think that uh the world needs to

654
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,700
to know at least if this is something

655
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,679
off planet or you know maybe it's

656
00:28:11,169 --> 00:28:09,360
something that like you said maybe it's

657
00:28:13,850 --> 00:28:11,179
something that can be explained in some

658
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:13,860
experimental it'd be hard to imagine the

659
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:16,559
1982 experimental thing that could do

660
00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:18,960
exactly what you're discussing but did

661
00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:21,000
you hear any types of noise at all any

662
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:22,860
humming anything at all

663
00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:25,919
now it's winter our you know our windows

664
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,200
are closed you know it's winter

665
00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:29,760
um but I didn't hear a thing and even

666
00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:32,100
Angie she said that when she pulled her

667
00:28:35,210 --> 00:28:33,900
car over she had her window down just a

668
00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:35,220
little bit she said she didn't hear I

669
00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:36,840
mean there there was no noise to this

670
00:28:42,529 --> 00:28:39,960
yeah well and then um I had many

671
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,539
neighbors that seen this Mr Steiner Mrs

672
00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:44,880
Mahoney and of course they're all passed

673
00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:46,380
away because they were elderly you know

674
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,340
them but I mean there there was a half a

675
00:28:55,970 --> 00:28:52,559
dozen Witnesses so I mean and then my

676
00:28:58,130 --> 00:28:55,980
mother and I in Rowland and yeah so and

677
00:28:59,930 --> 00:28:58,140
uh here's I'm gonna ask a couple of

678
00:29:01,970 --> 00:28:59,940
questions that have popped up

679
00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:01,980
um and if anyone would like to ask

680
00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:04,860
uh any questions please do put them in

681
00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:05,880
caps

682
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:07,380
um so did all the objects look very

683
00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:09,840
similar to this yes

684
00:29:15,649 --> 00:29:12,840
um this one is intact it's what do I say

685
00:29:18,769 --> 00:29:15,659
by that it's whole it's it's not broken

686
00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:18,779
I mean it's it's intact the other pieces

687
00:29:25,070 --> 00:29:22,380
are black black charred but you can tell

688
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:25,080
that they're round and that they're um

689
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:27,679
they got so hot that they they literally

690
00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:30,779
did not have the shape of the circle I

691
00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:32,460
mean they're you can tell that they were

692
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:35,580
so hot they like almost broke so they're

693
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:38,520
like half half round pieces and they're

694
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,860
literally black and charred all the way

695
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,200
through inside and out

696
00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:45,600
so it looked up from the looks of things

697
00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:48,360
when these things shot down into the

698
00:29:53,810 --> 00:29:50,760
snow it looked like whatever it was was

699
00:29:56,930 --> 00:29:53,820
like burning up do I have that right

700
00:29:59,389 --> 00:29:56,940
the light itself didn't burn not I mean

701
00:30:02,870 --> 00:29:59,399
it was nothing like that it just the

702
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:02,880
fire came from underneath but remember I

703
00:30:07,010 --> 00:30:05,279
told you how it first hovered and then

704
00:30:09,409 --> 00:30:07,020
it went down really low about six feet

705
00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:09,419
off the ground yeah and then when it

706
00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:11,700
lifted back up it it kind of did a

707
00:30:17,090 --> 00:30:14,279
little like a bounce just like that but

708
00:30:19,610 --> 00:30:17,100
then it shot up fast and then all of a

709
00:30:22,730 --> 00:30:19,620
sudden these I mean how can a green a

710
00:30:24,289 --> 00:30:22,740
lime green light solid light shoot out

711
00:30:27,169 --> 00:30:24,299
fireballs and I'm talking these

712
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:27,179
Fireballs were big and they had a tail

713
00:30:30,049 --> 00:30:28,559
on them I'm telling you they were round

714
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:30,059
and they had a tail and they came down

715
00:30:34,909 --> 00:30:32,399
so hard and they hit the snow wall over

716
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:34,919
and these are the Embers that were left

717
00:30:38,330 --> 00:30:36,240
burning

718
00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:38,340
so

719
00:30:42,350 --> 00:30:41,220
and and I did see other pictures I was

720
00:30:45,169 --> 00:30:42,360
trying to find them I don't have them

721
00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:45,179
you may have one right there

722
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:47,100
um of the ones that were in pieces do

723
00:30:52,490 --> 00:30:50,640
you have a picture of those oh uh yes I

724
00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:52,500
think I have it on the

725
00:30:57,889 --> 00:30:55,320
and but they were all it seems like

726
00:31:01,130 --> 00:30:57,899
they're all parts and pieces of

727
00:31:03,649 --> 00:31:01,140
something very similar right

728
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:03,659
um do you see this picture that is my

729
00:31:07,010 --> 00:31:04,799
mother

730
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:07,020
but see how much snow we had that's I

731
00:31:10,490 --> 00:31:08,460
took a picture of my mother she was

732
00:31:12,590 --> 00:31:10,500
outside with a shovel in her hand and

733
00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:12,600
she was looking for pieces you know that

734
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:14,100
were burning on the side of the road we

735
00:31:18,110 --> 00:31:15,600
were looking for debris the next morning

736
00:31:20,990 --> 00:31:18,120
yeah so that just goes to show how much

737
00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:21,000
snow we had and yes you said it looked

738
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:23,220
like five or so that were sh there's the

739
00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:24,720
plates right the plate with them right

740
00:31:34,909 --> 00:31:31,370
you're saying there were like five of

741
00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:34,919
them or so did you retrieve all five of

742
00:31:41,389 --> 00:31:37,740
what you saw shoot down or not

743
00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:41,399
we got yes we got it we probably on this

744
00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:44,520
plate we had more but the University of

745
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,200
Minnesota

746
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:48,240
um I can't and I can't remember did we

747
00:31:52,610 --> 00:31:50,460
give them two did we give them one I

748
00:31:54,529 --> 00:31:52,620
can't remember and then we then

749
00:31:57,230 --> 00:31:54,539
um Robert had this one

750
00:31:59,690 --> 00:31:57,240
but I I want to tell you something too

751
00:32:00,529 --> 00:31:59,700
that and I don't understand have you

752
00:32:03,169 --> 00:32:00,539
ever

753
00:32:04,909 --> 00:32:03,179
that you okay they say that Men in Black

754
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:04,919
come around after something like this

755
00:32:11,389 --> 00:32:08,640
happens right okay so

756
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:11,399
Paula Destin they said Julie why didn't

757
00:32:16,909 --> 00:32:12,960
you put that in your book I said because

758
00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:16,919
I don't I don't recall okay

759
00:32:21,169 --> 00:32:19,320
two or three days after this happened

760
00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:21,179
two guys showed up at our door and they

761
00:32:25,370 --> 00:32:23,220
had the long coats on and they had those

762
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:25,380
rubber shoes you know that you zip to

763
00:32:31,490 --> 00:32:28,980
put your yeah yeah and chiseled faces I

764
00:32:34,970 --> 00:32:31,500
mean sunglasses knocked on our door my

765
00:32:36,889 --> 00:32:34,980
mother let him in and the story is my

766
00:32:39,169 --> 00:32:36,899
mom's sister who's still alive today in

767
00:32:41,930 --> 00:32:39,179
fact she just published a book herself

768
00:32:43,789 --> 00:32:41,940
not on the UFO just something else but

769
00:32:45,289 --> 00:32:43,799
these guys were led into our house and

770
00:32:48,409 --> 00:32:45,299
they did an interview with my mother

771
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:48,419
with me and my stepfather I remember

772
00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:51,120
these guys and I remember them coming to

773
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:53,399
the door and I remember them coming in

774
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:55,919
but I don't remember the interview and I

775
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,080
can't no matter how much I've tried to

776
00:33:01,789 --> 00:32:59,760
lay down and think about it I can't

777
00:33:03,769 --> 00:33:01,799
remember the interview that they talked

778
00:33:05,389 --> 00:33:03,779
to us all separate so I never wrote that

779
00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:05,399
put that part in my book

780
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,080
but I think it's something very

781
00:33:14,509 --> 00:33:10,799
important and um but my mom's sister uh

782
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,519
clarine she uh taught we we just did a

783
00:33:18,529 --> 00:33:16,320
um a zoom with her and she said yes

784
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:18,539
Julie she talked to Dustin she said yes

785
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:20,880
those men came to your house they

786
00:33:26,509 --> 00:33:23,279
interviewed your mother your father you

787
00:33:29,169 --> 00:33:26,519
and she remembers all of it like it was

788
00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:29,179
yesterday because she my mom's sister

789
00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:32,760
did they identify themselves as from any

790
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:35,460
type of organization I do remember them

791
00:33:39,889 --> 00:33:38,460
giving us a card and I we don't I don't

792
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,899
know whatever happened to that card I

793
00:33:43,970 --> 00:33:41,519
don't ever remember hap whatever

794
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,980
happened to them but I don't understand

795
00:33:47,090 --> 00:33:45,600
why I don't remember that part I

796
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,100
remember them coming knocking on the

797
00:33:50,269 --> 00:33:48,960
door coming in this is God's honest

798
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:50,279
truth but I don't remember anything

799
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:53,279
after that nothing and so I left that

800
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:55,679
part out of my book because what am I

801
00:34:00,169 --> 00:33:57,120
going to write about yeah they came to

802
00:34:02,690 --> 00:34:00,179
the door they came in and there's no

803
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:02,700
really nothing to write about but I

804
00:34:07,030 --> 00:34:04,559
probably should have put that in there

805
00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:07,040
so I might write it

806
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:10,919
that is that is interesting so uh so

807
00:34:17,089 --> 00:34:14,220
mufon had this and kufos they both knew

808
00:34:20,030 --> 00:34:17,099
about it and how did you know how to

809
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:20,040
contact them because I'm thinking 1982

810
00:34:27,470 --> 00:34:23,520
who gave you the advice to contact do

811
00:34:29,690 --> 00:34:27,480
you remember mufon or kufos well when we

812
00:34:33,290 --> 00:34:29,700
had the sighting and we have these

813
00:34:35,329 --> 00:34:33,300
pieces um see the a paper Joseph Tui

814
00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:35,339
from the paper actually we didn't even

815
00:34:39,889 --> 00:34:37,260
call the newspaper the newspaper called

816
00:34:42,649 --> 00:34:39,899
us because they were citing

817
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:42,659
um on Bald Eagle Lake so I know Joseph

818
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,320
Tui and he's now passed away to that he

819
00:34:49,849 --> 00:34:48,000
came over to our house and he took

820
00:34:51,530 --> 00:34:49,859
pictures and interviewed my mother and I

821
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:51,540
and all that

822
00:34:57,950 --> 00:34:55,200
um shortly after kufos came Robert

823
00:35:00,829 --> 00:34:57,960
engberg and I don't know how he got

824
00:35:02,570 --> 00:35:00,839
there who sent him maybe when we called

825
00:35:05,810 --> 00:35:02,580
the police or maybe when we called the

826
00:35:08,570 --> 00:35:05,820
University of Minnesota how we got um

827
00:35:10,849 --> 00:35:08,580
hooked up with Robert I don't know

828
00:35:12,589 --> 00:35:10,859
but obviously you know Robert was there

829
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:12,599
because he took my piece and he gave me

830
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:15,599
back the letter of transmittal and he's

831
00:35:22,849 --> 00:35:18,420
on my mother's letter that she wrote so

832
00:35:25,550 --> 00:35:22,859
so how did Robert from kufo's mufan uh

833
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:25,560
come into this picture I I can't answer

834
00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:28,020
that but obviously obviously the word

835
00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:30,839
was out there you know I mean you're

836
00:35:34,849 --> 00:35:33,000
talking 1982 so I mean I've got a pretty

837
00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:34,859
good memory but I can't remember I have

838
00:35:38,750 --> 00:35:37,020
a little details no I know if you tried

839
00:35:41,150 --> 00:35:38,760
if I tried to think of things back then

840
00:35:42,589 --> 00:35:41,160
it would be really tough although you

841
00:35:44,329 --> 00:35:42,599
know something like that in your life is

842
00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:44,339
something you remember a lot of details

843
00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:46,680
about when something major like when I

844
00:35:52,190 --> 00:35:49,980
interrupt magic cheese cube says why not

845
00:35:53,930 --> 00:35:52,200
open a GoFundMe and let ufologists who

846
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:53,940
are generally interested to pay for this

847
00:36:01,010 --> 00:35:57,119
testing it's funny that you say that uh

848
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:01,020
because I just did a podcast too with uh

849
00:36:05,870 --> 00:36:04,320
Billy and Suzanne and we're talking they

850
00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:05,880
brought that up they said Julie we need

851
00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:08,460
to do a GoFundMe page and so I'm

852
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,020
answering your question

853
00:36:14,810 --> 00:36:12,720
um that that was brought up and that

854
00:36:16,430 --> 00:36:14,820
would be a good idea it really would be

855
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,440
because I'm willing

856
00:36:21,290 --> 00:36:18,960
to put this out there for everybody to

857
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:21,300
know what it is and like I said is it

858
00:36:27,290 --> 00:36:24,480
from extraterrestrial is it from the

859
00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:27,300
government I mean it's either or but I

860
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,260
know what I saw I that was not from to

861
00:36:35,569 --> 00:36:33,119
me that was not government I I there's

862
00:36:37,849 --> 00:36:35,579
no way I mean but who knows I mean I I

863
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:37,859
don't know well not not to sound too

864
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:40,800
conspiratorial but if it were me if I

865
00:36:46,490 --> 00:36:43,520
owned that equip if I own that material

866
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:46,500
and I wanted to have it tested I would

867
00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:48,720
just simply say I would like to have

868
00:36:55,069 --> 00:36:52,200
this piece tested for materials and not

869
00:36:56,810 --> 00:36:55,079
give any details about it just because

870
00:36:58,730 --> 00:36:56,820
you know

871
00:37:00,530 --> 00:36:58,740
if you start saying it could be

872
00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:00,540
extraterrestrial just let them make

873
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:03,480
their analysis but also

874
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:04,560
um

875
00:37:08,329 --> 00:37:06,960
it seems to be that a few people have

876
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:08,339
tried to do this in the past and

877
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:10,740
materials end up missing you know kind

878
00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:13,260
of like that's my fear

879
00:37:18,109 --> 00:37:15,300
um so I wouldn't even mention you know I

880
00:37:20,750 --> 00:37:18,119
would maybe have a friend

881
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:20,760
um you know uh bring it to a place and

882
00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:22,859
and all that stuff and just cover your

883
00:37:26,690 --> 00:37:25,020
bases that's all I'm saying right and I

884
00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:26,700
want to make sure that whoever is

885
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,980
testing this is credible I mean I don't

886
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:30,720
want them breaking it up and you know

887
00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:32,280
what I mean I I'm sure you could get

888
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,160
some debris or ashes or whatever from it

889
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:37,440
or even my other pieces that I have I

890
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:38,880
would be willing to part with those

891
00:37:44,089 --> 00:37:42,240
first because it's the same thing and

892
00:37:45,170 --> 00:37:44,099
see what those are because those are a

893
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,180
little more

894
00:37:51,170 --> 00:37:47,280
um you know they're burnt all the way

895
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:51,180
through and they're charred so yeah I

896
00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:53,760
would yeah so I have plenty to you know

897
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,980
get tested but I just got to make sure

898
00:38:00,589 --> 00:37:58,320
that it goes into the right hands that's

899
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:00,599
right right and um this person wants to

900
00:38:04,430 --> 00:38:01,920
know did you have any subsequent

901
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:04,440
sightings or events of high strangeness

902
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:07,680
in your life yes I did

903
00:38:12,530 --> 00:38:09,780
um in my book dark secrets and hidden

904
00:38:15,230 --> 00:38:12,540
lies I started journaling and writing

905
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:15,240
because I was talking about my horrific

906
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:18,180
upbringing uh very neglected rejected

907
00:38:23,089 --> 00:38:21,599
upbringing it was horrible and

908
00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:23,099
so

909
00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:26,820
when I was eight years old and my

910
00:38:31,370 --> 00:38:29,940
parents were up at the local bar my

911
00:38:33,290 --> 00:38:31,380
brother and I

912
00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:33,300
um we were on the bottom bunk and I

913
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,740
don't know who was up on the top bunk

914
00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:36,720
and we lived in a two-bedroom Shack

915
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:39,660
literally we lived in a very very well

916
00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:42,420
this is this is prior to 1982. yeah this

917
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:44,460
this yeah this is like a 19 when I was

918
00:38:47,930 --> 00:38:45,920
eight years old so it was

919
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:47,940
1972 or so

920
00:38:53,930 --> 00:38:50,880
but I was uh it was a in the evening and

921
00:38:54,650 --> 00:38:53,940
I was on the bottom bunk next to the

922
00:38:56,810 --> 00:38:54,660
wall

923
00:39:00,170 --> 00:38:56,820
and I was singing Twinkle Twinkle Little

924
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:00,180
Star and my brother put his hand over my

925
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:01,680
mouth he likes

926
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:04,079
quickly put his hand over my mouth and

927
00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:08,160
he said look and I looked and in the

928
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:10,500
entryway of our bedroom

929
00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:14,400
there was this small creature about four

930
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:16,440
feet tall

931
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,420
um standing there and I know it wasn't

932
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,640
human and

933
00:39:25,310 --> 00:39:22,640
um when I was

934
00:39:28,730 --> 00:39:25,320
talking with mupon they said Julie did

935
00:39:31,609 --> 00:39:28,740
you ever see have any uh unusual things

936
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,619
that happened to you and Bill mcnaff I

937
00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:32,880
don't know if you know bill mcnuff from

938
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:33,980
mufan

939
00:39:38,990 --> 00:39:37,320
the element in fact I have our email

940
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:39,000
it's in the book

941
00:39:43,790 --> 00:39:42,000
Bill asks me and I I asked Bill I said

942
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:43,800
can I put this in in the book because

943
00:39:48,349 --> 00:39:45,839
you know you can't have you have your

944
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:48,359
copyright stuff and he said Julie could

945
00:39:52,490 --> 00:39:49,920
you draw me a picture of what you

946
00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:52,500
remember at eight years old so I did

947
00:39:56,089 --> 00:39:54,900
right here I that's what I drew and I

948
00:39:57,730 --> 00:39:56,099
couldn't because I'm laying on the

949
00:40:00,170 --> 00:39:57,740
bottom of the bunk so I couldn't see

950
00:40:02,930 --> 00:40:00,180
past the waist you know I didn't see the

951
00:40:05,329 --> 00:40:02,940
legs because I'm laying down and this

952
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,339
thing is standing in our entryway

953
00:40:10,730 --> 00:40:07,200
so

954
00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:10,740
um Bill he said oh my god Julie he said

955
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:13,980
you didn't draw an alien and I said no I

956
00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:16,440
didn't see an alien I just saw a little

957
00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:21,720
creature and he oh gosh do you have this

958
00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:24,780
right here yes so

959
00:40:30,829 --> 00:40:27,960
uh bill says Julie give me a second so

960
00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:30,839
then he sends me this an email and this

961
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,320
is from 1969 that two military guys

962
00:40:38,210 --> 00:40:36,720
they experienced this and he said you're

963
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:38,220
giving me bill says you're giving me

964
00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:40,740
goosebumps because it looks like exactly

965
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:43,020
what you drew and I said when I looked

966
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,359
at that I said Bill the picture that

967
00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:47,280
bill just you know that you just had up

968
00:40:52,750 --> 00:40:49,380
that was more what I saw than my own

969
00:40:55,550 --> 00:40:52,760
drawing how can that be that

970
00:40:59,089 --> 00:40:55,560
the same you know what I mean it's Eerie

971
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,099
it is just mind-blowing but that's yeah

972
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:01,440
and it just stood there and my brother

973
00:41:07,010 --> 00:41:04,800
put his uh the blanket over his head and

974
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,020
I locked eyes with it it had black shiny

975
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:09,599
eyes and I locked eyes with it and I

976
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:12,720
can't it was like it was a magnet and

977
00:41:17,930 --> 00:41:15,119
this went on for maybe a minute or so

978
00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:17,940
and then I open and close my eyes a few

979
00:41:21,050 --> 00:41:19,800
times and it was gone so I don't know

980
00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:21,060
what that was

981
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:25,140
wow and it came yeah when's the last

982
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:26,220
time you spoke to your brother about

983
00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:27,180
that

984
00:41:31,550 --> 00:41:29,220
oh gosh

985
00:41:33,170 --> 00:41:31,560
um well he lives in Missouri somewhere

986
00:41:35,630 --> 00:41:33,180
I'm not really close with him right now

987
00:41:37,310 --> 00:41:35,640
he's but did he remember this through

988
00:41:40,370 --> 00:41:37,320
the years when you did speak with him

989
00:41:42,290 --> 00:41:40,380
yes absolutely he even told

990
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:42,300
um one of my friends Mike that lived in

991
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:45,599
our town he actually sent me a text

992
00:41:48,890 --> 00:41:47,460
message saying that you know Ron told me

993
00:41:50,750 --> 00:41:48,900
all about this Julie because I believe

994
00:41:54,190 --> 00:41:50,760
you yeah so

995
00:42:00,170 --> 00:41:54,200
absolutely that happened

996
00:42:06,290 --> 00:42:04,069
so this this happened uh prior and you

997
00:42:08,089 --> 00:42:06,300
know I mean there was no UFO connection

998
00:42:11,150 --> 00:42:08,099
or anything to that was just like you

999
00:42:14,089 --> 00:42:11,160
saw this this being but um so anything

1000
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:14,099
has anything happened since that's what

1001
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,599
the last question was but I mean has

1002
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:17,040
anything

1003
00:42:22,130 --> 00:42:20,480
uh happened since this has happened

1004
00:42:26,089 --> 00:42:22,140
1982.

1005
00:42:29,089 --> 00:42:26,099
well I am I am no not not not anything

1006
00:42:31,010 --> 00:42:29,099
big to tell you about but I am now Sky

1007
00:42:34,730 --> 00:42:31,020
watching and I have never done that and

1008
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,740
I have a video of two unusual things and

1009
00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:36,480
I've shared it with some reputable

1010
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,460
people and they're like yeah that's

1011
00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:40,800
really cool it

1012
00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:43,380
yeah so I'm doing that now I'm going out

1013
00:42:47,810 --> 00:42:45,900
and I'm well I have a perfect spot I

1014
00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:47,820
live in northern Minnesota I'm on a lake

1015
00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:49,800
I mean we just had the Northern Lights

1016
00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:52,200
the other night oh wow beautiful you

1017
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,320
know so I have a lot of beautiful

1018
00:42:59,690 --> 00:42:57,359
um and you know another thing too I want

1019
00:43:03,770 --> 00:42:59,700
to tell you uh

1020
00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:03,780
Marvin or Martin my book Dark Secrets

1021
00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:05,839
hidden lies do you see the street light

1022
00:43:11,329 --> 00:43:09,780
yeah and then I designed this cover and

1023
00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:11,339
that's me underneath the street light

1024
00:43:18,349 --> 00:43:14,280
okay yeah you got it there yeah and that

1025
00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:18,359
UFO was shining down on me I actually we

1026
00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:19,980
saw that when I was in the house looking

1027
00:43:25,390 --> 00:43:22,260
out the window but

1028
00:43:27,710 --> 00:43:25,400
I told you I had her a very rough

1029
00:43:30,410 --> 00:43:27,720
upbringing and so my book The Dark

1030
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:30,420
Secrets and hidden Lies when Rollin

1031
00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:31,680
would come home from the bar and throw

1032
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:32,940
me out of the house the middle of the

1033
00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:35,760
night as a young child young person I

1034
00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:37,020
would go sit underneath that street

1035
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,460
light and that's the same place where

1036
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,160
the UFO came

1037
00:43:44,270 --> 00:43:42,720
that was like my safe spot beneath the

1038
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,280
blank of the Stars underneath the street

1039
00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:47,040
light but that was my safe spot and

1040
00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:48,180
that's where

1041
00:43:55,010 --> 00:43:51,180
so I think it just kind of all mirrors

1042
00:43:57,710 --> 00:43:55,020
and connects wow interesting now they're

1043
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:57,720
getting to the light the color of the

1044
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:01,200
light it's not totally unheard of as a

1045
00:44:05,870 --> 00:44:03,720
matter of fact I was I was taking a a

1046
00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:05,880
flight on a commercial flight

1047
00:44:11,569 --> 00:44:09,060
and the guy next to me uh was a pilot

1048
00:44:15,050 --> 00:44:11,579
for American Airlines and we he was

1049
00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:15,060
deadheading and we had a discussion that

1050
00:44:22,730 --> 00:44:16,740
um

1051
00:44:25,069 --> 00:44:22,740
this is right after uh December of 2017

1052
00:44:28,670 --> 00:44:25,079
when the New York Times article came out

1053
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:28,680
about the Pentagon and UFOs and so I

1054
00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:30,900
asked him um if he happened to catch

1055
00:44:34,250 --> 00:44:33,000
that I don't know exactly I think it had

1056
00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:34,260
to do with he was saying he was a Navy

1057
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:37,380
pilot and uh

1058
00:44:42,890 --> 00:44:39,780
so he said no he did not he did not

1059
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,900
catch it but UFO was a real and I said

1060
00:44:47,809 --> 00:44:44,880
oh tell me tell me why you're saying

1061
00:44:51,290 --> 00:44:47,819
that and so he was uh flying I think uh

1062
00:44:55,130 --> 00:44:51,300
either an F-16 or something like that

1063
00:44:58,670 --> 00:44:55,140
um and for about 300 miles he was tailed

1064
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:58,680
by a bright green object that lit up the

1065
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:01,200
entire cockpit and it was uh he said it

1066
00:45:05,150 --> 00:45:03,119
was a it was just a really bright green

1067
00:45:07,609 --> 00:45:05,160
and followed him for

1068
00:45:11,450 --> 00:45:07,619
um I think he said about 300 miles which

1069
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:11,460
is which is very interesting yeah so you

1070
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,260
do hear you don't hear it a lot but

1071
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:15,839
green is one of the things people talk

1072
00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:18,480
about green orbs I've never heard anyone

1073
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:23,160
talk about a green cigar-shaped item but

1074
00:45:29,569 --> 00:45:25,920
would you say that this um

1075
00:45:32,510 --> 00:45:29,579
had an overall green Hue to it or was it

1076
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:32,520
shining out green lights

1077
00:45:38,809 --> 00:45:35,280
was not shining out any green flashing

1078
00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:38,819
lights it was just green bright and it

1079
00:45:41,690 --> 00:45:40,680
just it had like a

1080
00:45:44,030 --> 00:45:41,700
um

1081
00:45:47,329 --> 00:45:44,040
so you know like the actual

1082
00:45:49,150 --> 00:45:47,339
light had what did you see like a aura

1083
00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:49,160
around it

1084
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:51,960
yeah kind of late like that it had like

1085
00:45:56,990 --> 00:45:54,720
a little like a uh a light around it

1086
00:46:00,290 --> 00:45:57,000
that's kind of what I have to say that's

1087
00:46:04,430 --> 00:46:00,300
kind of what I saw I had a sighting back

1088
00:46:07,849 --> 00:46:04,440
in 2007 and it was a disc shaped object

1089
00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:07,859
but it had a glue a blue glow all the

1090
00:46:13,309 --> 00:46:09,720
way around it it didn't have any lights

1091
00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:13,319
but it was uh it was sort of Twilight at

1092
00:46:17,089 --> 00:46:15,300
the time but this thing had a it wasn't

1093
00:46:19,069 --> 00:46:17,099
really extremely bright or anything but

1094
00:46:22,130 --> 00:46:19,079
it had a blue glow all the way around it

1095
00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:22,140
but no lights emanating you know off of

1096
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:25,140
it nothing nothing flashing I looked in

1097
00:46:28,430 --> 00:46:26,400
there I wanted to see if there was

1098
00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:28,440
anything like dark in that light you

1099
00:46:31,970 --> 00:46:30,420
know like if they're if you could just

1100
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,980
because you know you're looking out the

1101
00:46:36,109 --> 00:46:33,599
window and you're watching this and it's

1102
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,119
even with you with the street light and

1103
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:38,880
I I couldn't make anything out in that

1104
00:46:43,849 --> 00:46:41,520
light at all and isn't it weird that uh

1105
00:46:44,450 --> 00:46:43,859
I shouldn't say use the word weird but

1106
00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:44,460
um

1107
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:46,920
for a light like that to shoot out

1108
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:49,440
Fireballs it just I've never heard I

1109
00:46:53,569 --> 00:46:50,880
don't think I've ever heard anything

1110
00:46:55,970 --> 00:46:53,579
like that ever from anyone so far I know

1111
00:46:58,190 --> 00:46:55,980
I mean and it was it and that's exactly

1112
00:46:59,390 --> 00:46:58,200
what happened and and I don't like you

1113
00:47:01,370 --> 00:46:59,400
said I don't

1114
00:47:03,710 --> 00:47:01,380
I don't even understand it how can a

1115
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:03,720
light shoot out fireballs and then you

1116
00:47:06,050 --> 00:47:05,280
know leave these debris in the snow it

1117
00:47:08,329 --> 00:47:06,060
was

1118
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:08,339
it's just something that I got to

1119
00:47:12,109 --> 00:47:10,800
witness and I feel like it was a gift

1120
00:47:13,970 --> 00:47:12,119
um I really do with me and my mother

1121
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:13,980
what we went through with all the trauma

1122
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:16,260
and then rolling you know the timing of

1123
00:47:18,770 --> 00:47:17,520
they're going through with the divorce

1124
00:47:20,750 --> 00:47:18,780
and he was leaving

1125
00:47:24,290 --> 00:47:20,760
to my mother and I it was like finality

1126
00:47:26,750 --> 00:47:24,300
it was just like Yep this you know I it

1127
00:47:28,849 --> 00:47:26,760
was just to us it was a sign and we all

1128
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:28,859
her and I talked about that we said it

1129
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,060
was a sign

1130
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,640
do you do you believe that you have

1131
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:35,040
complete memory of it or do you think

1132
00:47:38,829 --> 00:47:37,200
that there's any missing pieces that

1133
00:47:40,809 --> 00:47:38,839
you'd like to recover say in

1134
00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:40,819
hypnotherapy or something like that

1135
00:47:44,569 --> 00:47:43,020
here's you know

1136
00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:44,579
I was too and I've told this to Paula

1137
00:47:49,370 --> 00:47:46,680
okay so this happened at midnight we

1138
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:49,380
went up to bed about because I know uh

1139
00:47:56,809 --> 00:47:53,280
uh we watched a movie there's no way

1140
00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:56,819
an hour and a half went by and there's

1141
00:48:00,290 --> 00:47:58,140
no to me

1142
00:48:01,970 --> 00:48:00,300
that happened you know happening at

1143
00:48:03,710 --> 00:48:01,980
midnight and

1144
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:03,720
I know

1145
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:10,250
since the time part like I think

1146
00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:12,720
12 o'clock came too fast

1147
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:15,240
that's how I always felt my mom felt

1148
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:16,440
that way too

1149
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:20,400
and so I don't know who knows

1150
00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:23,040
but it's just something that I it's on

1151
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:25,020
in in the back of my head that I I

1152
00:48:30,530 --> 00:48:26,880
always did believe that that

1153
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,540
this happened at like 10 15 10 30 or

1154
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:32,640
whatever I mean how did 12 o'clock come

1155
00:48:35,150 --> 00:48:33,839
that quick I mean I couldn't even

1156
00:48:38,450 --> 00:48:35,160
believe when that happened that it was

1157
00:48:40,670 --> 00:48:38,460
after midnight to me well yeah that's

1158
00:48:43,849 --> 00:48:40,680
just someone complimenting you yeah that

1159
00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:43,859
they bought your book yeah your strength

1160
00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:46,380
is extraordinary and all that so

1161
00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:48,900
um yeah I believe that

1162
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:51,240
you know it wouldn't hurt you know there

1163
00:48:54,589 --> 00:48:52,800
I'm sure you've heard if you've been

1164
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,599
paying attention to a lot of people

1165
00:48:58,609 --> 00:48:56,880
talking about having sightings that

1166
00:49:00,410 --> 00:48:58,619
there's a Time issue a lot of times

1167
00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:00,420
there's a Time issue whether it's

1168
00:49:04,849 --> 00:49:01,740
missing time

1169
00:49:07,849 --> 00:49:04,859
time dilation or I don't even know you

1170
00:49:10,250 --> 00:49:07,859
know there is a time element uh there

1171
00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:10,260
seems to be with a lot of UFO sightings

1172
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:12,780
and sometimes people will say something

1173
00:49:17,450 --> 00:49:15,119
like Jason or the next thing I mean I I

1174
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:17,460
spoke to someone on the phone recently

1175
00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:19,260
that had quite a signing I'm probably

1176
00:49:24,109 --> 00:49:21,420
going to try to get him on the show

1177
00:49:26,089 --> 00:49:24,119
um in New Mexico and uh he's probably

1178
00:49:29,329 --> 00:49:26,099
going to listen to the show and and uh

1179
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:29,339
and uh get back in touch with me but he

1180
00:49:36,650 --> 00:49:33,599
uh had this weird very very unusual

1181
00:49:38,089 --> 00:49:36,660
citing that started out looking like an

1182
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:38,099
animal type of thing and then it

1183
00:49:41,569 --> 00:49:39,599
shape-shifted and everything else it's

1184
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:41,579
really bizarre and then all of a sudden

1185
00:49:45,470 --> 00:49:43,380
it's you know like three o'clock in the

1186
00:49:48,349 --> 00:49:45,480
morning and they have no idea what

1187
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,359
happened so uh there there seems to be a

1188
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:50,160
lot of times that people are talking

1189
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,599
about this and I don't think it would

1190
00:49:55,490 --> 00:49:53,040
hurt you to

1191
00:49:56,750 --> 00:49:55,500
you know look into it a little more as

1192
00:49:59,630 --> 00:49:56,760
far as uh

1193
00:50:01,730 --> 00:49:59,640
hypnotherapy or something right and the

1194
00:50:03,410 --> 00:50:01,740
clarity of it I mean so where our house

1195
00:50:05,809 --> 00:50:03,420
was up on that little Hill there's no

1196
00:50:07,609 --> 00:50:05,819
houses in front of us there's no houses

1197
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:07,619
on the side of us but there is a house

1198
00:50:12,349 --> 00:50:10,319
behind us so now we have you're looking

1199
00:50:13,790 --> 00:50:12,359
out you have all these ponds in front of

1200
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:13,800
you and you have a lake on your right

1201
00:50:19,069 --> 00:50:17,280
hand side oh and another thing which I

1202
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:19,079
thought was unusual is there was a

1203
00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:20,880
sighting the same night as mine and you

1204
00:50:25,609 --> 00:50:23,160
you just had that up and it said uh

1205
00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:25,619
February 10 1982

1206
00:50:31,550 --> 00:50:28,740
uh UFO underwater that's not for me

1207
00:50:33,410 --> 00:50:31,560
that's not art my mine's already

1208
00:50:35,690 --> 00:50:33,420
recorded my sighting but there was

1209
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,700
another one from February 10th will

1210
00:50:38,690 --> 00:50:36,960
Ernie come on my little town of

1211
00:50:40,990 --> 00:50:38,700
willernie that there was somebody

1212
00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:41,000
reported a UFO underwater

1213
00:50:46,609 --> 00:50:43,560
underwater underwater

1214
00:50:48,829 --> 00:50:46,619
now how that's in fact I already know

1215
00:50:53,089 --> 00:50:48,839
that's that's in the ice the lakes are

1216
00:50:54,410 --> 00:50:53,099
iced over yes so the report that UFO cat

1217
00:50:56,930 --> 00:50:54,420
had

1218
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:56,940
um I I think I thought I gave it to you

1219
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,559
but it's in my book

1220
00:51:03,230 --> 00:51:00,960
so where did that I do I do believe you

1221
00:51:06,290 --> 00:51:03,240
did uh I just didn't that just didn't

1222
00:51:09,290 --> 00:51:06,300
get uploaded yeah but anyway

1223
00:51:11,710 --> 00:51:09,300
um that's very strange uh to be

1224
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:11,720
underwater yeah

1225
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:15,540
I know yes I saw that yeah well this one

1226
00:51:23,210 --> 00:51:18,480
this is crazy but this is

1227
00:51:27,049 --> 00:51:23,220
um back then in 1982 we had Northwestern

1228
00:51:30,349 --> 00:51:27,059
Bell right Ma Bell yep and my mother

1229
00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:30,359
saved this and this is us uh it says

1230
00:51:37,309 --> 00:51:33,000
save this Northwestern Bell from March

1231
00:51:40,190 --> 00:51:37,319
uh or uh 1982 searching for report of

1232
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:40,200
whatever became of the full intact ring

1233
00:51:45,170 --> 00:51:42,720
where where was it what happened to the

1234
00:51:47,569 --> 00:51:45,180
piece we never got back but we saved

1235
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,579
This Is Us calling cupos in Chicago

1236
00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:48,960
Illinois

1237
00:51:53,450 --> 00:51:52,200
mm-hmm my mother saved that she had

1238
00:51:56,750 --> 00:51:53,460
everything like in a little photo album

1239
00:51:59,329 --> 00:51:56,760
she was so proud yeah gave her

1240
00:52:01,849 --> 00:51:59,339
everything yeah she's passed away now

1241
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,859
but I mean I hope she knows that I wrote

1242
00:52:05,150 --> 00:52:03,119
the book because

1243
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:05,160
and I believe she does and I believe she

1244
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:06,720
was with me when I wrote it but I mean

1245
00:52:10,750 --> 00:52:08,880
it was for something this Majestic to

1246
00:52:14,930 --> 00:52:10,760
happen and then just have your pieces

1247
00:52:16,130 --> 00:52:14,940
you know disappear and there's the whole

1248
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:16,140
story just

1249
00:52:22,670 --> 00:52:18,960
gone but now it's it's been rekindled

1250
00:52:24,650 --> 00:52:22,680
and I'm well I'd like to stay in touch

1251
00:52:26,510 --> 00:52:24,660
with you and follow up about this

1252
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:26,520
material because I think it's important

1253
00:52:32,030 --> 00:52:28,559
to at least have it put in the right

1254
00:52:33,770 --> 00:52:32,040
hands and I I still think that uh Gary

1255
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:33,780
Nolan would be a good start and I'm

1256
00:52:39,290 --> 00:52:37,440
going to reach out to him and uh also

1257
00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:39,300
send them a link to this video and and

1258
00:52:44,750 --> 00:52:41,880
the pictures and things like that and uh

1259
00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:44,760
we have just a couple of minutes uh left

1260
00:52:49,849 --> 00:52:47,220
so I guess what I'd like to ask you is

1261
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,859
uh how do where do you go from here on

1262
00:52:53,210 --> 00:52:51,839
this is just besides having the material

1263
00:52:54,530 --> 00:52:53,220
looked at

1264
00:52:57,290 --> 00:52:54,540
um are you going to try to keep this

1265
00:53:00,349 --> 00:52:57,300
story kindled until that gets answered

1266
00:53:01,970 --> 00:53:00,359
I am like I I like I like doing the

1267
00:53:05,210 --> 00:53:01,980
podcast and getting the word out there

1268
00:53:07,370 --> 00:53:05,220
and um My Little Town of willerney they

1269
00:53:08,930 --> 00:53:07,380
just had a uh it was so cute and I found

1270
00:53:11,049 --> 00:53:08,940
this out after the fact but they just

1271
00:53:14,990 --> 00:53:11,059
had a little alien party

1272
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,000
I said you did and then um I guess the

1273
00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:17,760
old uh folks that come in there in the

1274
00:53:22,010 --> 00:53:20,460
morning the uh they're reading my book

1275
00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:22,020
to them when they come in and have their

1276
00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:27,000
coffee so uh oh really yeah yeah and

1277
00:53:32,210 --> 00:53:30,300
then my my brother-in-law was um he has

1278
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,220
a pizza business and anyway a guy came

1279
00:53:36,829 --> 00:53:34,319
out from a real estate realtor office

1280
00:53:39,049 --> 00:53:36,839
and he goes hey is your last name Olson

1281
00:53:40,609 --> 00:53:39,059
because I'm reading this Julie Olsen's

1282
00:53:42,650 --> 00:53:40,619
book right now and he goes and I see her

1283
00:53:44,750 --> 00:53:42,660
let you know the last name on the the

1284
00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:44,760
truck the pizza track and my

1285
00:53:48,109 --> 00:53:46,740
brother-in-law's like oh my gosh your

1286
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:48,119
name is getting out there he's like I

1287
00:53:51,309 --> 00:53:49,380
might have to start taking the side

1288
00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:51,319
streets

1289
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:53,700
well thank you so much Julie and I'm

1290
00:53:57,170 --> 00:53:55,680
gonna put all these things in the the

1291
00:54:00,049 --> 00:53:57,180
show notes as I mentioned to anyone

1292
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,059
that's listening to the audio and I'm

1293
00:54:04,609 --> 00:54:02,400
going to be following up with you and I

1294
00:54:07,069 --> 00:54:04,619
will also if there's ever an answer to

1295
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:07,079
this material uh we'll talk again and

1296
00:54:11,930 --> 00:54:09,119
get this out there okay that sounds

1297
00:54:13,849 --> 00:54:11,940
great all right so yep thank you for

1298
00:54:17,210 --> 00:54:13,859
your evening yeah thank you thank you

1299
00:54:18,890 --> 00:54:17,220
very much okay bye now all right

1300
00:54:20,990 --> 00:54:18,900
everyone so next week I'll be back with

1301
00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:21,000
Sam morancho thank you all for watching

1302
00:54:24,770 --> 00:54:23,099
and listening to the show tonight and

1303
00:54:27,370 --> 00:54:24,780
we'll see you next week remember to keep

1304
00:54:28,530 --> 00:54:27,380
your eyes to the sky

1305
00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:28,540
thank you

1306
00:54:32,099 --> 00:54:37,850
foreign